"The decision not to support it going foreward, however, is based on the development of DS." ~You know this for a fact? WHere are you getting your information?~ Not as a hard fact but, yes, I know it as a rational assumption that in the course of wranglings in one of the longest threads at Poser Pros-- someone mentioned the unexpected restrictions on competition and a person from Daz-- might have been Dan Farr-- said as a matter of fact we are working on a renderering package. Pennies dropped all over the site, you could hear the unmistakable sound of the second shoe falling. Nothing in the eula for Poser 4 about competition. No problems with using Poser 4 for Daz. You do the math. Emily