Well, I'm 100% scottish but I've used chopsticks in preference to a knife and fork for years (wherever possible - I draw the line at spaghetti - LOL). Knives and forks are barbaric instuments, IMO. But to get back on topic, it seems to me that no matter what terms we use to define an item, there's always somebody who takes offence. And I use the phrase 'takes offence' deliberately. I believe that with the best intentions in the world, it isn't always possible to sugar-coat every word we say or use. We're (mostly) adults and old enough to realise that there are certain words commonly used to describe the things around us. Nobody likes gratuitous racism, least of all me (although I LOVE jokes about the scots!). But when someone 'takes' offence, even where none is being given or intended, I tend to roll my eyes and say 'Here we go again'. Don't people have anything better to do with their lives? mac PS Yes, Molly.... I remember the Brown Sugar thing too.