"Curious Labs eventually offered DAZ the service for free" I don't remember this ever happening. Last I heard, CL said the price was "negotiable." I doubt it was ever negotiated down to "free." Yes. This did happen, with notes at PoserPros and here. "Then DAZ refused the offer, and announced their own product: DAZ Studio. From the start, many people vowed to skip Poser 5 and wait for DAZ Studio." This is way off. DAZ didn't announce DS right after the EULA debates. It was months or maybe even a year afterwards. And "from the start" people vowed to stay away from P5 because of its various problems, not because of DS. As stated, DS was officially announced long afer P5's release. And when it was announced, DAZ stated it would be a loooong time before release. Actually, I know that development was being done on D|S before the EULA debacle. Not guessing, and not opinion. I know becuase I was asked about my opinion regarding a potential product capable of such things, specifically from DAZ, via IM, on another site, in excess of one year ago. And probably just lost a friend in saying so, tyvm. Why would the biggest Poser content creator not go forward otherwise? Therein is the issue. Why? Because they believe that their future growth is limited if they focus on producing content for a single application. The market needs to be broadened, and they need to get their models, which are excellent, into the hands of more people, which will require getting out of the "poser" market and the development of an additional market (say, for example, lightwave users, who are just as in love with their program as Poser users are with theirs -- and the two share a lot in common). Furthermore, there is money to be made in the creation of a basic figure posing tool that competes with Poser directly and has the capability to be added to for portability into additional, higher end applications via internal and external development. In short, because it makes better business sense, that's why. Not "nice" business sense, but better. D|S will not kill the Poser community. It will create a rift, it will force change and challenge everyone, but it will not kill it. The statements are not untrue. They are not, however, published, nor are they good PR. And I'm not being hard on DAZ. I have been (and still am on occasion) quite nice about them. Just as I am quite nice about CL and still hard on them. As to the question: figures designed to work in the face room, at this time, are limited strictly to those figures that come with the program, as there is proprietary information that must be included in the figures in order to make them work with the technology involved. This does not mean that Michael and Victoria do not work in P5 -- merely that they are not perfect figures any more than Don or Judy are.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)