sorry, hon -- really, wasn't trying to gloat... Of the five different systems I have P5 installed on at present, I don't have the shadow issue at all. And try as I might, I cannot duplicate it. IT's really bugging the hell out of me. The only thing I can guess is that a lot of the shadows trouble systems have newer graphics cards than any of my systems do (newest one in house right now is an older model Quadro in the renderbox, and after that it's strictly a Geforce2 level set. 'Cept the daughter's, who has a 4 fx, but I can't touch that box anymore unless it's to do an upgrade she's screwed up). I've got the parts for nearly everything else except the video and DDR RAM specs for the people I have gotten the info from. And on none of them have I been able to duplicate it.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)