I just wanted to say, to all who came to my aid and contributed priceless information, I thank your from the bottom of my heart. As far as I know, I thanked everyone personally, but if by chance I missed someone, I apologize and I thank you here for your generousity and your kindness to a neophyte. I think I'm going to go with Poser 5. It's pretty much unanimous with the Poser pros. I thank you for helping me. Be seein' you on the boards. ciao, Nikita.