Thanks, Foxseelady, for your suggestions. I'm using p3do explorer all the time --it has saved my life!!! But the !v3 and !m3 mess is the real problem; your idea of deleting the rem though is an excellent one as their are seldom if ever used, but then again you have the third party MOR files that are using them --I thing. Well, I'll carry on with the rest of the cleaning-up and leave the bleeding inj-rem last, in the hope that some miracle might happen meanwhile...:)

"That's another fine mess you got me in to!" -- Oliver Hardy