hmm thanx... btw insomnia, i saw compiler explain to poor lame newbie i am on previosu catsuit thread how to make a trimless geometry of the catsuit. i followed the instructions (IMPORT the obj of catsuit, not load it through cr2), make a groupe including all trims materials, put a magnet roughly at abdomen, makes the szone to affect only the new group, scale the zone to some 10 000% and scale the magnet to 1%. then export the obj under a new name, and make a cr2 that call THIs new obj intead of he orignali had a strange erroer message "no groups in geom, cannot make the rsrc" what did i do wrong ? can explain ? btw would this .obj available through/from you as he mentionned ?