ok, i will send one - must find the where i lie on the tiger skin! So that it fits! A little confusing your 4 and 5 situation. Are you really sure that you have installed the last Vue update - especially the last beta? I had exactly this fun when the Mac version was not able to read Poser 5 files. I did like you has done. Use Poser 5 and let Vue think it is from 4. The beta solved that problem. An easy way to find out wether you are using the "good" version is, to check wether when you inport a Poser 5 object a second process on your Mac is started and running (as long as VuePro is running). It's called "SimpleAlert". If you plan to install the last beta - maybe you want to backup your environment folder from the Vue folder first. Why? I will tell you later. Ciao, Walther

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