If you will list what programs you have, I will help you find good books to learn from that do NOT have anything to do with Bill Fleming. He is truly beyond contempt. I should dig out a few of his crying whining letters to show why I say that. And he makes promise after promise, none of which he keeps. His first issue of his online tutorials magazine went live around march of last year. It was supposed to be 12 issues a year. Then inside a month he reduced it to bimonthly. By May he managed to get another issue up, but little of it was usuable, the subject he tried to cover was too broad. Then not another issue came out. He kept writing excuses, new baby on the way, having to write books to support his wife and child, etc. Then saying the site would go back to live by Nov. Then he pushed that to Feb. Never giving any refunds. No matter how many refunds were requested. Then since Feb all we get out of him are letters offering us a chance to buy this, that or the other at a "discount" that he has arranged for his VAST mailing list he now has and sells. Of couse, since there is a cute code to use to claim the discount, he is making a percentage or commission off those sales too. I never buy. EVER. I would rather pay full price than see him get even 1.00. Those artists were alot like these. Niave. Trusting. All striving to do as well as he clearly could do even with his eyes closed. And he is a charlatan who saw a way to create an internet community and make a fast buck off their needs, then leave them hanging high and dry, since he also knows starving hobbyist level artists cannot afford to sue.