I am curious as to who a lot of the people who are posting the remarks and put downs are coming from. Having been a member for a while here when it was the PFO and then Renderosity about 90% of the ones ranting and raving in the forums and other places in the site are really unfamiliar to me. Who are you people?? And do you have a life outside of your computers ?? I make my living on my computer with my 3D and other digital mediums and so have a certain (God forbid) economic reason for belonging to and using as many 3D sites as I can. And not one of them has a perfect setup when it comes to the financial and ownership setups that please everyone. I am not pleased about what has happened but the snide remarks and outright vitriolic tirades of some in the forums and elsewhere does nothing but show an immature attitude on the part of a very few people who can't accept that what is done is done and to either move on or let it go and see what happens in the future. So why not give it a rest as it does nothing but show a propensity to cause upheaval and trouble for a lot of people who really don't want to hear it. I reiterate that I like and respect Jack and Ed and some of the people who are leaving and going with them but I also like some of the people who are staying here. I don't particularly care for some of the people who are staying here just as I don't care for some who are going with Jack and Ed and leaving here. I plan to go with them but I also plan to stay here. There is nothing wrong with that and it doesn't mean I am supporting Renderosity under Edgenet any more than I am suppoting Jack and Ed in the new place I hope they set up. What it means is that I want to gain and get all the help and advice in my work as I can from the people who I admire and respect in both places. That is my right and my perogative as a person who has free choice. So if anyone wishes to leave they are free to do so. If any wish to stay they are also free to do so. What is not appreciated by a vast number of us is the attitude from both sides that the other side is wrong and a bunch of jerks. I don't hack on any who leave and I don't hack on any who stay (and I could as I can tell you that from what I have read I am much better at it that most here when it comes to flaming). It is each persons right to do as they feel they must. That is why it should be let go now and we should all get on with what to me is more important in the long run and that is having the camaradrie we once enjoyed and the friendships we have made in this forum and ones that I hope to join with in the future with those who will go on to Jack and Eds forum. I know for a fact that none of the principals( Jack, Ed or Tim ) wish to see the whole community torn apart and both sides in this dispute have stated so in no uncertain terms. So let it go and see where it all falls out and hopefully we will all benefit from it. We all have the right to out opinions. We also have the right not to have others try to push their opinions down our throats. Smart ass remarks lead to one thing only. A reflection of the person who makes them.