Ah-bubble bursts-you mean I'm not the best!!! I guess I will have to keep working at it them. :O) Hi like HobbyHopper because he his renders are like wonderful sightseeing adventures. http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=HobbyHopper Scott Kings is awesome IMHO http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=Sking Lorraine, Pendarian, and Turtle do some really beautiful renders as well. http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=Lorraine http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Yes&Artist=pendarian http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?ByArtist=Y&Artist=Turtle These are some of my Favs