tammymc opened this issue on Mar 01, 2004 ยท 134 posts
Armorbeast posted Wed, 17 March 2004 at 9:48 AM
"Well, what can I say. You seem to be a master of lying with the truth Armor.
I'm sorry for any family you lost in WWII, and I can asure you I will "Never Forgot". I lost family freeing them.
The rest of your arguing is bordering on nonsense to me, and while I would never let you work on ad campign, I will defend your right to spew it.
Speech hurts NO ONE. It is only words. Pictures hurt NO ONE they are representations. Thoughts hurt NO ONE, they exist only in the mind of a person.
Actions DO HURT people! Weather they are the actions of a child molester, a Nazi war Criminal, some one trying to stop words, pictures and thoughts by taking away our rights, or the ACTION of sitting idelly by and letting them do it.
The question is what do we do about it all. I say listen, and hear everything. You can't do that if go around silencing people."
Ratteler...my family in Germany wasn't a direct lineage and so glad you point out how you lost family to free them as I did as well!!You keep saying that I'm trying to silence people yet you're the one shouting to force people to accept your view...you say I'm a liar yet it seems that the ol Ratteler is the one with venom in his mouth-its the armored beast thats immune!!Hitler did nothing but speek and so glad you agree he had the right to do so...as he inspired one of the most evil period of bloodshed in world history with "harmless words" and maybe we should have stopped him-yet,he killed no one and committed no crimes-he merely gave the orders and aren't those harmless words?So glad you have just cleared Adolf Hitler of any blame or accountability for what happened in WW2...after all,the only crime he committed was speaking and thinking of what to say-he didn't commit the crimes himself!
Sitting by and doing nothing isn't an action ...its a choice and you choose to put the rights of an individual before the majority!True,at times the individual should have more rights because they are the same universal rights that everyone possesses yet are being denied...some people believe pornography is art and I include myself among them in that pornography "can be" art-but not every pornographic image is art and everyone including the artists themselves agree with that.The same rings true of imagery in general...just because you do an image doesn't make it art,its the judgement of others that make it art.Thats why one image is judged pornographic by some and art by others...likewise,the image of a nude child can be seen as art or pornography!Some people may look at a nude cg child and see pornography...that same person may look at the image of a real nude child and see art!!Art is indeed in the eye of the beholder...but society as a whole does not have one set of eyes and so we have a majority rule issue!
In reference to me being a liar,just contact the site owner as I still have the emails and could post them...but why not let her tell you herself as I think watching a ratteler swallow a crow would be quite humorous rofl!What harm do you really see in covering a childs genitals in an image ratteler...you make it sound as if first its this and next we're all in chains being marched to market!!I'd say that by allowing full upper body nudity rosity is still somewhat in violation of the law which says that its not the law they're trying to comply with...they're only trying to set a standard and you're the one saying they have no right to do so!!Its not even a total ban...but then again,maybe next they'll ban showing any animal with balls-course,snakes don't have those so you're ok there my friend!
I for one fully support this move and think they've drawn an excellent line not to cross...the issue of merchants though does bring up another sticky issue as it was actually one of my focus points-I wanted to know whay the merchants were not allowed to show the genitals of mil kids in the marketplace and yet could in their gallerys!With this change in TOS though,its rather a moot point but to answer-these characters can be morphed into adults and there are several such characters that have no childish features at all.Thus,it really isn't worth fighting over as long as the TOS are in play...but it is an interesting pov nonetheless. And ratteler...you don't need me to do an ad campaign for you-you need a psychiatrist and there I must profess I have no credentials. With that I say adios...only came back because someone copied "forked tongues" comment and sent it to me-had to see if it was true and think calmer heads with different pov's should take over since me and rat have slugged it out.I'm just not one to back down from a fight worth fighting...rat just loves to fight even if there's no fight to be fought,he's just gotta sink his fangs into the topic to spread some poison!
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