have no scan (bt maybe i'll haveone soon). got to exhumate my saturn and games from my box. okay so drab measn dull/greyish. btw for the bikin and breast fabrics, did you just used a drab green, or also higlights settings ? i believe i saw a small reflect/highlight, as on the "satin" effect 3dz just shown for the upper arms (yellow or red...) i tried to "desaturate" some of my koli textures but used too bright/frank colors and they keep stayin "colotred" :) but now i'll now, for the next i'll doo... i wonder if using dark grey ambient color would work... will try