Ain't that a bear. It seems that .max is number two in avalible files. I surf on a few sites for free 3d cg, mostly to tare them apart to see how they were made; I'm not going to pay for some thing I intend to brake down. I use Metasequoia and even though it does load quite a few different files some of the ones I was most curious about, and wanted to work on most were .x and .geo {planes}. So I got 3dwin. I posted this because of the problems I was having with the new version, but Tb software has sence sent me the files to fix it. They also informed me of the same thing you've just stated nothing will convert a ,max file; for now.