I feel like rumblestillskin. How long have I been away? I have had my head burried deep in getting the Battle Force Senbotsu package completed and submitted to the MP. Very impressive work everyone! Thank you compiler of the assistance once again on the trim thing. If I checked in earlier and saw what was going on, I would have asked you just to send him that finsihed version you made. I have a copy of it around here somewhere also. Next time we will just send it rather than explain how. Sorry about that Riddokun. I am seeing outragious geometries being made here by The3dZone and Nanoshi. I hope I still have a job tomorrow, lol. marty