LMAO, Scouts honour! That piece of crap isn't mine! This whole thing started as an exercise to show people that they should take the Hot 20 with a pinch of salt. If I can manipulate an image to this extent then there is no reason why someone can't do it regularly to a lesser extent for their own gain. Someone who isn't as honest as I am and wouldn't own up to it. I purposely waited until Rick uploaded an image before doing this (sorry, mate) because it would have more of an impact. Before anyone says anything...No, I don't think Rick is manipulating votes to get his images to the top of the Hot 20. He gets a lot of comments and a lot of votes and they're all deserved. Anyway, I just noticed something really strange (apart from me, Keith, LOL). After spending all day venting in this forum I went out into the gallery and started leaving comments on peoples images and actually enjoyed it! I think having vented sorta chilled me to the point that I could just say what I thought. This may sound weird but one of the reasons I started to cut back on the amount of comments I left was because I felt that what I was saying didn't mean anything. This is one of the reasons I started to go on about leaving constructive criticism. I wanted to feel like what I was saying actually meant something! Some people may think i'm talking crap here and wonder what i'm going on about but I have never found leaving comments easy. I'm not comfortable leaving gushing, praise heaping comments on peoples images. Likewise, it makes me uncomfortable when I receive that kind of comment since in my own mind I have never made an image that was worthy of it... I know sometimes like in this thread I come across as surly, but MOST of the time that is just me having fun, I don't mean anything by it, you really should take everything I say with a pinch of salt (WOW! you wait years to use that expression and then end up using it twice in one posting). While i'm still in a confessional mood. I should apologise to ClassyLadyTwo. The comment I left on your image was made while I was still in venting mode and may be a bit blunt. It should have been helpful, and I hope, like you said in your IM, you can can see it as constructive. Ok...I'm ready for my spanking now, Mr. De Mille! Matt.