Hi Wabe, I checked that thread out, and at the time it was written, my mx430 worked fine..arg. I wonder if guitta is still OK, since she listed an mx400 (obviously an older version of the one I'm using). I'm not sure what the problem is, but I used to have an ATI radeon, and while ATI was supposed to be the leader of gamery video cards, it didn't let me use open GL in vue. The new machine, with a budget nvidia did...until recently. I'm sure there was a change in the drivers that e-on didn't anticipate, but it still is frustrating when their reply on the forum is "Turn it off....sorry", it makes you feel less than appreciated:( eric