I think you'll find this site has been abandoned for quite awhile. I know it's been on the 'net for at least 4 years as it was one of the first places that introduced me to tubes. (nope, never used them :) ) At the time I belonged to a group that was scroupulous(sp) at getting permission to tube various images, artists who said no had their wishes, not to mention copyright, adhered to. Course, then I discovered Poser and had no need to seek permission from anyone as I now make my own :) Please excuse the spelling, it's just gone 7am here and I'm not really awake.