His supposed forced on us membership to the new place, Graphics Resource Club, instead of an honest refund was possibly the worst insult of all. They never even sent the free book they claimed they were going to send. I did not want books. I have more books than I can shake a stick at anyway. I also did not want a 3 month trial membership to a club that I had no interest in. I believe that all here should be aware of the sort of person Bill Flemming is, and that if he is supported in any way at all, it is in fact supporting the man who defrauded a large community of trusting artists and were literally robbed of hard earned cash. I think I shall write up a large fat warning about him, dig out the old emails, etc, and do it up right into News and Announcements.