The eyelash material has no shininess and a refractive index of 1.0. The flare settings are set at zero. The material preview in the material editor looks fine its only when I render that I seee a problem. I tried making the preview object a box (- is that what you meant, Zicculus?) but I didn't notice anything new. I have spent a lot of time fiddling with this without succes so I was hoping someone on this list might know a solution or at least give an explanation of Vues behaviour. The eye is shiny - I noticed that Poser import doesn't bring in glassy/glossy objects properly - you just cant see a highlight at this angle . I did say I use Vue 4.22 - this is an update of Vue standard which I downloaded about 2 weeks ago.