ouch, no Idea dude, could be you are running a memory hog program as well as bryce or the thing you are rendering is sucking up what memory you have. Maybe if u can break the picture up into multiple renders and then throw it together in photoshop. for example render the background seperate from the foreground, if u render the foreground render it against a green or blue screen, then bring the 2 pictures together in Photoshop. I have not left Renderosity just yet, If I find a forum with as many people and with the ability to show my work then yeah I'll leave, but for now I'll stay around and see what the fallout looks like. I have only heard one side of the story so I cannot base a decision on just that. Regards Sinv-jica/Spooky