well so far it seems like a wonderfull program it picks up where poser leaves you wanting it has realtime rendering and transparencys instead of a point cloud it shows the hair it is a wonderfull program so far even in its limited alpha stage but we are all just getting a bit testy with all the promises and not getting satasfaction all we want is regular updates on the progress but they wount even do that the D|S page at daz3d hasent been updated in months and months they are leaveing us all in the dark and once in a while promiseing it will be released in 1 or 2 weeks and it never is so i hope you can understand why we all reacted so grumpily anybody who is treated like a second rate citizen anywhere gets testy i for one am sorry if i upset you gpacioli .