I only add three things. #1 - What is good art? Can anybody who demands that i have to vote for good art only tell me some criteria? So that i dont make a mistake in the future! And don't tell me your personal preferences - i want absolut objective criteria. Nothing else. #2 - What is bad on a subjective pov? Cant i have friends? Is it not allowed to have personal preferences? Brings back the question #1 - what is good art? #3 - Are we doing competitions here? Are we struggling for love and honour? And is the criterium the amount of Hot20 entries - or wether an image is selected for the backroom or any other place? And who is the winner? Looks a lot like the old school days to me - everybody wants to be teachers darling. Funny! For me this here has a lot to do with fun. In the discussion threads here and showing and looking at images. And in the ideal case discussing them. Or minimum talking about. There are only two things that should be looked after. That the basic rules about fairness are taken care of. Like not cheating with clones for example. Or attacking and insulting others. Again, this here is fun. Full stop. That Renderosity makes money with it, well thats sort of normal. If not, this place would not exist and we all wouldn't know each other. It is the same in the music business. How much from the price of a CD the artist really gets? Not much, a lot less than 50% for sure. So you can't buy music at all. just my little cent, Walther

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