Thank you iloco! :) Vue4Pro is a nice landscape program and I'd still recommend it. I'm also happy with e-on for offering educational versions of the software, which is great for us poor college students. I don't use Poser because I feel that it ultimately takes something away from my ability to create the main focus of my render or animation. This isn't due to lower quality or stunted workflow with Poser, because admittedly I can't get the kind of output that most people can produce with Poser. Rather, if I use Poser I lose valuable practice hours. On the other hand, Vue is a lifesaver. While I know that I can model trees and so on, the ability to create compelling terrain and vegetation quickly leaves me free to focus on architectural detail and character modeling/rigging/animation. With this new Pro version I can import "custom" vegetation and sky maps to 3ds max, slap various shaders and materials on the vegetation, and get whatever sort of look I want. Much faster and usually of better quality than if I stuck with pushing the vertices myself. :)