Dialyn .... look and what you've gone and started! .... hehe.... good for you! .... now .... as for steve's ''magic box'' supposition .... I would never say never .... but,"my" mind is so goofy that I don't need 'help' (well, not 'that' kind of 'help'! - the kind of 'help' "I" need costs about $120 per hour???) .... That's why I love my 'double exposures' I take so much .... Literally, whatever my 'mind' can 'see' I can 'try' .... with practical limitations, of course .... that's why the 'pc' enters into things for me later on down the road .... as an 'aside' b/4 I comment on the 'music' idea ....Dialyn .... regarding your earlier posting, I've been thinking some more (scary thought!) .... I used to run some small companies ($20mm sales per year) .... worked in all areas and was assistant 'sales manager' .... My boss taught me that I could have 'the best product' and 'the best sales pitch' in the world .... but, when I 'knocked' on someone's ''door'' and they refused to let me 'in', it didn't matter about the above two items .... make sense??? .... now .... ''music''.... I think music is 'the' equalizer .... among 'races', 'countries', 'ideology' .... it crosses all barries to mankind .... "music soothes the savage beast" .... I have almost 1000 cd's of all types, and I mean 'all' types .... lol .... can you imagine watching a 'movie' and not having 'music' in it??? .... not good! .... lol .... great thoughts and comments from all! .... brian.