Win4Lin is how I got it running. the slowdown is because you can only allocate 128MB to the whole shell, which Poser has to share with the Win98 "install". Dunno why you detest DAZ so much, but I'm still lobbying to get hold of the D|S source so I can try to get a (albeit unsupported by DAZ) version of D|S built for Linux (unless Taylor beats me to it.) /P