Tim, It was a "trial" not a vote...because you did advertise it as a "trial" was not to get our "Opinion" on how people should conduct themselves, but whether or not to ban him...that is what you said...so tell it like it is. Embarassing? You will not be able to convince me that it never was your intention. Otherwise, you wouldn't have posted the message or even mentioned his name. Instead it would have been "Hey we are taking a poll on this type of behaviour, what do you think" But it wasn't. There it was for all to see, his post, his name. Do I think he should have been banned? No...not unless you want to start banning everyone who has been outraged, insulted and generally in a crappy mood this last week. I can even point to some of your mods that have behaved in a similiar fashion. A lot has been said in the heat of the moment, in the confusion that we have all been feeling. Edgenet has seen the membership turn on itself and rot from the inside out. I hope they are happy. (as if they care) The only people that I feel embarrassed for are the ones that decided on this fiasco "trial".