Thanks everybody for all the references to authors, and the history lesson. 3d is very new to me. A year ago I saw Bryce4 and stood in the isle at Best Buy gasping for it. I became Bill Murray as Bob "I need, I need". A year later I was able to get it, and then found out about Poser4. What a fantastic combination!! I'm on the well known 'tight budget' due to serious medical bills. But my hubby knows how I love drawing, etc. and respectfully never says a word as the kid in me gets to indulge once in a far while! So finding the book that pretains to, as close to, as what I want is important. Again Thanks for the directions!