All this carrying on about copyright. Not only does Fir Use extend to Criticism, Journalism, and Educational use without the permision or conscent of the copywrit holder as noted above, so does parody and other forms of humor. Even if the above criteria for Fair Use are not met the copywrite holder is obliged to demonstrate confusion of product, damage to reputation, substitution of product and most importantly Real Damages (namely credible lost/diverted income). Unless Biance, or whatever her name is can demonstrate that sale of images of her self that she customerly benefits from finacially were negativly impacted by the publication of this thread I think we are safe ;) Absolutely I think we should respect copyright, all my software is properly licenced, all my music purchased legally, etc. but as an artist and educator I would hate to have freedom of expression and freedom of information shutdown by missguided interpretation of copyright protection... there was serious discussion in Quebec some years ago over whether the slides owned buy University Art History departments could in fact be shown to students as it was legally determined that posession of the slides did not imply a right to "public" display of the images on them. I believe the matter was settled by payments into an escrow account pending determination of ownership of the images on the tens of thousands of legally purchased slides involved. I have just removed a book at random from the shelf and read that "no part of this book may be used in any manner whatsoever without the prior written permission" of the publisher... I better get a letter of to the publisher before I start reading it or maybe set a can of coke on it to protect the table :) Likewise most of my CDs expressly prohibit me from listening to them an electronic equipment like a CD player but I do take the liberty. I guess the point is that for a free society to work common sense should prevail... I don't have cable but why they should be protected from me descrabling signals they choose to beam through MY house eludes me... I doubt I could get the please to invest much energy in protecting a fifty dolar bill I choose to leave under a pebble on the sidewalk in front of my house. I guess the bottom line for me is substitution of product... you are not violating copyright unless you integrate the actual product (code, sample, etc.) if you are dealing mearly with likness than the owness should be on people to be distinctive enough to protect themselves... 98% of us are using operating systems that were stolen lock stock and barel from Apple but people will make each other crazy over what artist who have no prayer of making any money any way do.