Hello again, Still, I can't seem to get into the Vue forum. :( The triangle/arrow thingies all seem to point to the same thing; when I "view properties"---they link to the forum contents frame, and they do not open up a list of links/options. So, if there doesn't seem to be a way to "jump into" any particular forum, how does one get there? like I said, I can find the Vue forum by running a search for the word "Vue", but I always get sent to the same page, and the messages are rather old. I suppose I would have to be psychic to find the latest thread! LOL I can see in the left hand frame that right now it says that the most recent message to Vue was posted 3 hours ago (as of 8:30 a.m.EDT), so evidently there IS a way to find them and actually post a message. Hell if I know what THAT might be though. Cheers, Mike<<<<still trying!