bloodsong, I seem to have somehow missed this thread! Well, by now you've probably surmised that I'm a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic anyway, huh? :P But, hey, I got all wrapped up in reading about your Dragon Factory program, and kind of forgot about the Vue stuff. That looks pretty cool! Any more info anywhere available on it? Such as comments/galleries from people who have gotten it and used it to create, err, uhh, well, dragons? I'm a big time dragon fan. About 75% of my oil paintings have dragons in them. Unfortunately, I'm completely lost when it comes to modelling. I have a few demo programs, but the "help" files are all written in Greek, and well, you know...Anyway, you can probably count on me buying it somewhere in the near future. :) Cheers, all, Mike