Hi all, Because Daz has purchased the exclusive distribution rights to UTC, I will no longer be supporting it. The updates developed before I sold the program to Daz are still available on www.3duniverse.co.za. Daz should have included these updates in the program they are now selling though. When several people reported the #13 error, I presumed that Daz had left something out of their installer, as no one should receive this error with v1.1 installed. cheers, Steve