If people NEED me to tell them that they can't use copyrighted material in a commercial venture then they need to give up digital cloning The unfortunate part of all of this, Zarabanda, is that you have an audience with a wide range of experience and expertise. Some know the importance of copyright issues, while others don't. As you pointed out, the MP texture and "tubing" scandals are proof that there are many out there who don't respect this very sensitive issue. And, that is the primary reason why there are several people expressing their concerns about using celebrity photos. >> Thats a big assumption to make. I'm describing technique ASSUMING that people don't own a professional photo studio or even a camera. That's a valid point; however, you do have an area where you provide photos for your group members to practice with ... it would be just as easy to share digital photos of group members as it is to share your celebrity photos. I don't think people are challenging your PROCESS or your results at all ... as I've said before I think your work is excellent, and have even complimented you privately. But when you title a thread "The Art and Theory of Digital Cloning" and then post copyrighted celebrity photos as examples, it is only natural for some people, including myself, to express concern about it. Just because it's freely available doesn't mean it's in the public domain and is OK to use. And unless we set examples, we will continue to fight the battles about what is OK and what is not. No disrespect intended, Zarabanda ... just voicing concerns is all.