heyas; nice job, parkie! if you hit the archive link for this forum (up top/down bottom of messages) or search for 'making waves,' you can see i posted a pic of some experiements i was doing with making ocean waves on the beach. if you find that interesting, i can send you the scene file. (i should probably just post it for download.) it needs some work, i was hoping the people around here could help it out. :) guitta has a splash-making tutorial, and a nice stormy shoreline pic at http://start-at.arte/ (i think that's the url.) there are some nice tutorials there in english and french.