Okay... I realise that me daring to reply to an insult/assault upon me by a rigtheous flawless influent member of RO communauty as yourself will surely bring upon me shunning and despise because I should not even dare to explain myself, reply to your insults, and moderators/coordinators will come to the rescue and either delete my posts or lock the thread.. but sorry i am a lame bastard and usually when i am kicked unfairly, i use to fight back instead of giving next cheeck for another beating... So for sure, i can tell i am REALLY impressed by such desmonstration of might and "legitimate anger" speech of yours, really; i hesitated a few second between going back to my rat hole and hung myself in redemption for my sins, or simply calm down and have a laugh at how funny it is !!! so for all of you folks who did not understand, i will summarize briefly who3d's high opinion about my lame poor self : i am a damn pedophilia supporter that is always on the run to any opportunity to contest/overthrown simple courtesy rules as nude flags, that i sure want to be removed !!! wooow how laughable. I know my english is not good because not my main langage, and many ethical or philosophical or technical discussions can put me short of correct words, btu my english is poor ONLY if you take the time to READ IT of course, not scannign through a few triggering anger words to build up a nice shiny armor to put yourself in the "right side" and punishing a bad guy. I really wonder if you ever tried to read and understand my point or what i said. but i won't repeat it or explain it because i think it was simpel and clear enough for those who took the time to ead it. for you i'll simply quote your message step by step : --- The "nudity flag" is not an anti-adult porn, anti-pedophile or ant-job losing cind of thing alone. It's a rule which was created, I assume, based on a number of concerns (including all of the above and probably more). --- So i am an idiot twho do not understand the meaning and goal of such a simple courtesy feature such as nudity flag ? well i am an idiot, and what i understand of nudity flag is: whenever a character is naked on a picture (mine, other's), i put the flag on; if the character is not naked i don't put it. Simple and easy, even an idiot like me could understand such a simpel thing. Oh wait.. but what does naked mean ? Take a look: nudity as a flag is aimed at recognition of possibly offending material for unsuited viewers (either childrens, or people who do not want/like to see nudity, regarding either their custom/believes and the place where they browse RO.. at office sure it is embarassing) I am an idiot so i keep focusing my mind on the most influencable and vulnerable viewers concerned by the nudity flag: childrens ! what kind of nudity could offend them, what kind of nudity they would need to be protected from that the outside real world is not already assaulting them with ? It may be contradictory but so far i choosed to stick on the definition of nudity (for RO flag regards) as needed for "bare chested" females, and entirely naked characters regardless of sex. It is strange because one should view MALE bare chest as much nudity as female one, but our society and custom is "indulgent" over topless males, but female breasts seems to be an issue (but again, another paradox: what are babies sucking usually for milk ? and so older siblgings do see in such a moment... let it pass and forget it). Now for some fun, nudity or "offensing" nakedness even depend on cultures !!! For a muslim person, swimsuits are as much nudity as total nudity as far as they are concerned. I am sure some muslim fellow are working/using RO too and they are offended whenever they see a swimsuit dressed character, while they sure did turned the nudity off their profile ! lets back to our sheeps: i am idiot and take some drastic decisios, would they soudn paradoxal or flawed: Naked character: nudity on Top naked female: Nudity on Other than that: Nudity off... --- *I'm often astounded at the lengths peopel will go to APPARENTLY to attack this simple rule of courtesy. --- so do i, when i read you !!! it is the same way of thinking, but on the behalf/service of the opposit side; so it does not worth MORE no matter the meaning, as the way to express it is the same... I mean, nudity tag is a courtesy, it is to allow people who think it is unsuited or uninteresting for them to see, or let see, pictures of naked/nude characters (they have their reasons, i don't care about, it is theirs.. what matter is they have a way to apply their freedom of thinking and use the website accordingly). Of course it is not (in its initial aim/goal) a antiporn/anti anything measure. but while many people see nudity flag just for what it is: courtesy, and a flag, and a end by itself (on, off, need to switch it or not, end of the speech), others are really eager to see it as ONLY a FIRST STEP towards a rigtheous and morally acceptable way ofr tghinking/life they really would like to enforce upon others, using "self guilt" feelings to cast upon people who dare no think like them. so sorry who3d, but while nudity flag is supposed to just be a convenient tool of courtesy, some people want/like to TURN it into a weapon or a ramp to jump further ! While i wont question the reasons of someone using the flag according to his needs and feelings, i seriously doubt of the fairness of the other kind of people i described here... --- My apologies for this post, but Riddokun's post above hit a raw nerve that's been tingling during this thread. --- let me remind you one of the first lesson on Internet you sure had learned before me, and i hope, not as hard the way as i did: you NEVER can assume to knwo everything/rightly the person you are speaking too ! Oh sorry i tickled a nerve on you ? too bad.. did you ever considered that THIS thread triggered a nerve on me TOO, for me to answer on it instead of just reading it and having a good laugh abotu how it was ridiculous and all again all the same ? Hmm so now your clever mind quickly ellaborate smart deductions so taht if it triggered my nerve and i replied the way i did that offended you SOOOOO much, i sure MUST be a damn bastard pedophil freak that clumsily try to "DEFEND" his deviance !!! If you manage to get such an explanation, without prooves and no matter the reality, then you are REALLY REALLY strong, have a crystall ball ? well then please wash it a bit because it is blurry !!! I know enough on pedophilia, i just hope you do not know as much as me about it becasue of same reasons or else i would be sorry for you , no matter our argument ! What i just stated is that simply overexposing it by the medias, it had twisted effects, far from the "protection/information" goal people wanted to achieve ! Aside from a dangerous thing tat existed since many years ago, now it is also an inquisition tool with which anyone can ruin his neighboor's life, as much as witch factor during inquisition. Of course you catch monsters, that's good, but how many peopel use this to also sacrifice innocent people ? (yes sometimes there are "setup" traps around it, but no matter truth is discovered, once "labelled" or targetted with the so frigthenign word, you coudl even rather go straight and do it for real, because een if innocent, once accused you are guilty, no need of proofs...). The other effect it had (so far in my counry) is that we discovered moe cases taht ocne before would have been hidden (good thing) but also gave idea to people who never tried it, turning more people into monsters than there were already in store. I am idiot, btu if capturing one mosnter also sacrifice 1 innocent and create two more monsters in the process, well i check back my maths but at the end you loose ! (numbers are purely example...i hope the proportions are not that simple...)