Wait until April, and there will be a few "un-polished" people (texture sets)being released at DAZ. I have been working the last few months on character sets like this, They are not "dirty", but do have a nice "gritty realism" If you are looking for a pretty grimey guy though...feel free to check out my "Davey Jones Ghost" at DAZ....he is definatly not clean LOL Rawn