thanx all for the nice words about the site, instant messages, emails, phone calls and the offers to host some of the tutes. But Im not willing to break up the site, if I were...I'd just host it myself. :) Besides, I dont really have the time to hunt thru the thousands of files to pick out the "popular" ones. The site has generated a million+ hits (adding all the page hits together) and had drawn 25-50 gigs monthly for a very long time. Itd be hard to pick them. Fact is, last year I cut the site 1/3 by removing the lesser used tutes, the graphical interface and all the downloads, but it's still over 100 mb total (counting Driven..which is as much a part of brycetech as anything). Mark from 3dcommune has asked me to contact him about hosting the entire site...I dont know if I have the time to change it over and let 3dcommune run it or not. anyhow..many thanx once again. The community continually surprises me and constantly reminds me why Debbie and I were so fond of the program and those that use it. :) BT