Ironbear: Sorry, I just posted the "Reader's Digest Condensed Ironbear" up above, Cliff. I figured that most people who know know the poser galleries can fill in Steps 1-7 on their own. My bad. ;) ============= Yup, tho I didn't number it in my head. I was also doing my best neither to attack nor defend DAZ (I've defended them too much in the past and regretted it). However the "Instant Art" aspect is already here - as you point out, look at the galleries sometime! DAZ are (mostly) in the business of selling content - so they obviously want to be able to provide as much of everybody's scenes as possible, if they can pursaude us to buy the components in a paint-by-numbers style. I think if any clarification were needed it would be towards what aspect shocked/concerned you - that DAZ are making it easier to produce "Instant Art" in the same way those various advances over the years I mentioned, or that they're actively fostering that kind of attitude (a very different thing which I don't have any comment on). Either way I expect a lot of people will produce the equivalent of "my son, toothpaste on his lips, and a huge T-Rex glove puppet on is arm first thing in the morning" photos rather than "wow"... but that some of them will end up making a few "wow" images among their collection :) Cheers, Cliff