I know about the magnets, but I can't get them to make smaller, less froggy eyes. In fact they're so unwieldy it would be easier for be to make the changes post render. Anyway, I seem to be able to work with rhino, I just wish I could delete those stupid lashes, but they're part of the "number of vertices" required to get it back into Poser. Anyone know a workaround for that?