DarkElegance opened this issue on Mar 30, 2004 ยท 114 posts
DarkElegance posted Wed, 31 March 2004 at 1:29 PM
O.O dear god I went to bed and it grew! okokok One, This thread was NOT ment to be a thread about flameing or bashing. There is a HUGE difference between the "Iamgreatandyouallsuck-itis" and being constructive. One is usually done "bitchy" "catty" and with out any true contructiveness about it. the other is when you actually have an interest and take the time to help and artist. constructive critism is not bad. it helps it makes you grow{that is if you dont have this disease} it takes the bar and ups it. "if you dont like it dont look" the thing is. if you "like it" and care about the artists you are going to take the small moment to go "this is great you need to work on the shadows/lights/texture/painting/etc and it will really make it POP" THAT is not a bad thing. that is showing them something that can make their work better. now dont get me wrong there is work here that IS great that you look at and it is like O.O the brass ring. something to strive for. "What one person thinks is crap another thinks is beautiful" true very true. but one lesson I learned as I ran into, while recovering from the early symptoms of this disease{yes..I am DarkElegance and I am a recovering from "myfriendsinflatemyego-itis"...} is that somethings in art are consistant. not just in poser art but in all art. is it style..no. is it technique? no.. is it a proggy or medium..no. it is somethings that no matter if it is abstract,realism,postmodern..anything it has certain elements.{lighting,composition,flow,etc} when working with 3d art...even harder. why? because I dont care if it is the new mona lisa of the world. you have a bad joint break..and leg that is just not naturally suppose to bend that way...something poking throug.,..no shadows,,bad light source...those are not a "style" those are mistakes that any artist can take the time and fix. that will up their work. that will help them grow. THAT is the difference between "bitchy""catty" flaming...and being constructive. Someone up there said.."turtle dont let this thread discourage you".. why would you say something like that? because I am siting here saying that if you cared and was interest in what is best for the artist you would not just blow smoke up their rear?{P.S. Turtle that is not directed at you thought I'd say that before it got mistaken for that} you would take the moment and give a suggestion? that is not discouraging..and an artist needs to know that "not everyone is going to like it" is different from someone giving constructive critism, that just because someone or a list of someones is telling you you are GREAT..doesnt mean you are. or doesnt mean you dont need to polish some skills. it also doesnt mean that a person that brings you such constructive critism hates you or doesnt like your work. after all arent they bring you advice that might make your work better? if they didnt like your work or thought it had potential they wouldnt take the time to do so. "know it all'ers" hmm...you dont have to know it all to see that if your light is comming from the left there are going to be coresponding shadows...or if that maiden is standing in a castle ruin with nothing but moonlight she is not going to look like she is standing in a studio full lit. you dont need to be a know it all to see a elbow/knee/neck,etc is bent in a way you could never get the human body. it doesnt take a know it all to see a poke through, a bad drape, movement not corresponding with other factors{hair that doesnt sway with the head and yes I know many hairs dont have that morph but you can still get it, earings that no matter how extreme the head is bending look as if they are a part of the head that will never swing or lean or sway, etc} Somethings you dont have to be a know it all to see or bring up. I agree it is the way somethings are brought up that can rub an artist the wrong way. but an artist needs to realize that nothing is always and forever GREAT or PERFECT. I like fatales suggestion. a gallery for WIPS ..where we can get together and go "great idea you have a wonderful flow going ...try this that or the other...add a highlight or add a shadow or you need to adjust your lights..etc etc" Epi has one~shivers~ and trust me they will make you look all new at your work. I submitted an older piece one that was GREAT. and someone came and went .."her eyeballs look like they are just sitting in her head" I was like huh? I poped her open and sure enough due to using a eye prop..{actually it can happen with most eyes} the edge of the lacriminal and the eyeball was rather harsh. like she was wearing a glass eye. This person took the time to stop at a single post in the WIP...pop alink to the pic in question..and actually study the piece to try and help me. that doesnt sound like someone being mean or hateful or flaming or a know it all. I would of NEVER looked at something like that. I like the idea of a WIP here. Hey MOD/ADMINS...what you say? hmm? can we have a WIP?
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