Is this what you want to achieve Susan? The total dimensions of the door are x=40, y=40, z=10 ('cos they're reasonably easy numbers to work with). I created 2 squares, set x=30, y=40 for one, x-40,y=30 for the other. Then created 4 cylinders (each 10x10x10) and positioned them (in x/y axes) at (15,15), (-15,15), (15,-15), -15,-15). Then grouped them and rotated them til I could see what I'd done. I've not yet thought about how to texture it... Cheers, Diolma