Jaager, it's simply a matter of taste. I can figure out Rhino and trueSpace, but on the occasions I've tried RDS and Carrara I just felt annoyed. So I won't shell out the $$ when there are other apps on my wishlist. Thanks for all the suggestions, I seem to have found a working combo of Compose and Rhino. And I did indeed get rid of the eyelids without deleting them.