Awww...Thanks Sandoppe...nice to know that someone has noticed ;) And DarkElegance...I took a look at your gallery and two of your images could be considered 'disturbing' by some, I found them thoughtful and expressive. These would be very fine examples of Poser 'therapy' at work in my opinion. http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=636304 http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=635544 Rebekah