scourge, I didn't know you made MPE. Compliments. Although I don't use it myself, for most people it's one of the most useful Poser utilities around. shadownet, That's a pretty good method for text MAT making, and that's the way I used to do it. But nowadays, I find it much faster to do the whole thing in John Stallings' Cr2Editor. I keep a MAT basic template handy and just copy/paste the new materials from the cr2 pane to the MAT pane. Also, since a lot of the Pose files I make are SET files (for moving body parts or changing joint parameters), this method's a lot easier for me. There are lots of ways to skin a cat, as they say. mac