Aye, Zandar, you're right. All of these things have been hashed over many times, even with Pendulum, the person responsible for the Bryce for Mac movement. It's been stated time and time again that if it IS developed, it will also be for the PC. My PC has no problem running Mac programs, ever, regardless. But I dont' think they need to outdo the big dogs, either. Just outdo Bryce 5, and I'll probably enjoy it. I don't enjoy using Lightwave, but it really does kick ass when it comes to results! Foleypro's right, though. Render times can always be tweaked down to nothing, a 2-week render should only be acceptable if it's an animation, really...! Even then... Silly...