Caustics, hmmmm, really? I do have the decanters smoothed, not alot but maybe they need more.... Okay, I 'do' have soft shadows set in the sky lab and on the radials to reduce the 'black shadow' effect on the drape...that might be it Some will be offered in my freestuff and others in my store in Bryce obj and obp format, and I wanted the promos to be accurate...another try is in order... Thanks guys!

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