You guys are just way too spoiled. I remember rendering my first Lightwave 3d picture, 320x200, and I think it took 36 HOURS to render. No image maps, no bumpmaps, no reflections, no lensflares, we didn't know what those were back then. And it's not becuase poser is poorly written. turn everything on in a lightwave scene, and then wait a few hours for it to render as well. The real problem, is that we keep doing MORE with our faster hardware. Try something simple with P5, or lightwave, and each render fine.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.