iloco and ShadowWind, its probably helpful to share experiences to see if you are both experiencing the same problems since that does help to narrow down the possibility of what might be causing a particular issue. However, it can also generate a false positive if you've overlooked something that may or may not be present on your systems. It could be something that can appear very minor, or, may not even be recognized by a particular vendor as a problem (for example, with system components that Vue Pro makes use of). The development team has put out a few updates since we shipped Vue 4 Pro, so issues are being addressed. But problems cannot be fixed if the development team cannot duplicate them -- which is why Ive been saying to provide them with as much information as possible. If they cannot duplicate it then, and noone bothers to follow up, they move on to another issue they can duplicate and fix. If I thought you were troublemakers, I would have just ignored your posts. Dont read into my posts anything more than I write in a literal sense. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks e-on software