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OK, [I had to run off for paper and pencil to see what this means for the "Zone System".] With ISO 200, f/8 @ 1/800 is basically the "rule of thumb" for bright sun on the back of the film box. This is what Donald's gray card would read in bright sun. These birds are VERY white! So normal exposure would put them into Zone IX, with no texture visible. You give one stop less exposure to place the birds into Zone VIII, where you should get some texture. And since the black birds are way down in Zone II, you increase the exposure by one stop, placing them in Zone III, where you should start to see some texture. That seems to agree with my last trip to Florida. I basically used a "Gray Card" reading, and the white bird did not end up with much texture. [I was able to tweak some out with photoshop.] ___ Now, how early do you wake up? Where do you hide? What lenses do you use? Do you bribe them fith fish or something?