Aye, Bryce isn't dead until my copies stop running, whichthey won't. Ever. I have my home network attached to 12 windmills, which will keep me powered indefinitely. (joking about the Windmills) I agree with you, Kaom. Rhino is the best program I've ever spent money on, I got it out of a small computer deal as I told the client I needed a legit copy of Rhino to finish his projects. Compared to the cost of the whole deal, Rhino was a drop in the bucket for him. Nowadays, I model nearly everything except terrains in Rhino. Things like walls and simple boolean stuff I still do in Bryce, and I'm much more fluent with Bryce for artchitectural modeling, but Rhino RULES!